Tools To Build A Future
A Vision For Constructive Dialogue
July 1998

A Proposal By
Robert W. Jones
President Of The Elphinstone Community Association
Vice-Chair Of The Sunshine Coast Transportation Commission
Member Of The Howe Sound / Sunshine Coast Ferry Advisory Committee
Member Of BC Ferries Cost Allocation And Finance Committee

 

Table of Contents

1.    Management Summary - Abstract 5

2.    Introduction. 6

2.1.     Definitions. 6

2.1.1.       Fleets Vs Regions. 6

3.    Ferry Advisory. 7

3.1.     What Is Ferry Advisory. 7

3.2.     The Original Committees. 7

3.2.1.       Northern Committee. 7

3.2.2.       South Gulf Islands. 7

3.2.3.       Howe Sound / Sunshine Coast Ferry Advisory Committee  7

4.    Experience To Date of Our Committee. 8

4.1.     Strategic Planning. 8

4.1.1.       Phase 1 Draft Proposal 8

4.1.2.       Phase 1 Costing By BC Ferries. 8

4.1.3.       Fast Passenger Only. 8

4.2.     Subcommittees. 8

4.2.1.       Communications. 8

4.2.2.       Operations & Scheduling. 8

4.3.     Public Perception Of And Reactions To Ferry Advisory. 8

4.3.1.       What Is Ferry Advisory. 9

4.3.2.       Best Reasons For Not Getting Involved. 9

4.3.3.       Best Reasons For Getting Involved. 9

4.4.     Process Pros And Cons Of The Processes To Date. 9

4.4.1.       Cons. 9

4.4.2.       Pros. 9

4.4.3.       Mistakes And Lessons. 9

5.    The Tier Two Process. 9

5.1.     Cost Allocation & Finance. 9

5.2.     Tariff Consultation. 9

5.2.1.       “We Want To Achieve Efficiencies Before We Raise Fares” Tom Ward  9

5.3.     The Pentagon. 9

5.3.1.       The Customers. 9

5.3.2.       BC Ferries Management 9

5.3.3.       BC Ferries Staff 9

5.3.4.       BC Ferries Board Of Directors. 9

5.3.5.       The Government 9

6.    The Crisis. 9

6.1.     BC Ferries Corp. Is Not Responsible For All B.C. Ferries. 9

6.2.     Cabinet ignores the Stakeholders. 9

6.2.1.       Invitation not responded to. 9

6.3.     Cabinet Ignores B.C. Ferries. 9

6.4.     The John Fryer Report 9

6.4.1.       Was not independent 9

6.4.2.       Did not fairly document the arguments put forward. 9

6.5.     BC Ferries Fires Sunshine Coast Representatives. 9

6.5.1.       Divide and conquer 9

7.    Problems with the process. 9

7.1.     Lack of input 9

7.2.     Potential to be high jacked by special interest groups. 9

8.    Requirements For Resolution. 9

8.1.     What is BC Ferries?. 9

8.2.     How is it Funded. 9

8.3.     Take The Politics Out Of BC Ferries. 9

8.4.     Provide a Structure for the stake holder process. 9

8.5.     The Possible Structure Alternatives. 9

8.5.1.       Transport And Communications BC. 9

8.5.2.       BC Ferries Commission. 9

9.    Transport & Communications BC. 9

9.1.     Responsible For The Movement Of People, Goods, And Information Within The Province Of BC. 9

9.2.     People. 9

9.3.     Goods. 9

9.4.     Communications. 9

9.5.     Analyse The Transportation and Communication Needs of the Province  9

10.  BC Ferries Commission. 9

10.1.    Introduction. 9

10.2.    Scope. 9

10.3.    Independence Of 9

10.4.    Structure. 9

10.5.    Process Overview. 9

10.5.1.     Applicant 9

10.5.2.     The Application. 9

10.5.3.     Notice Of Application. 9

10.5.4.     Interveners. 9

10.5.5.     Staff Information Requests. 9

10.5.6.     Intervener Information Requests. 9

10.5.7.     Alternate Dispute Resolution Process. 9

10.5.8.     Hearings. 9

10.5.9.     Decision. 9

10.5.10.   Appeal 9

11.  BC Ferries Board of Director Commission. 9

11.1.    Introduction. 9

11.2.    Scope. 9

11.3.    Independence Of 9

11.4.    Conceptual Organisational Chart 9

11.5.    Process Overview. 9

11.5.1.     Applicant 9

11.5.2.     The Application. 9

11.5.3.     Notice Of Application. 9

11.5.4.     Interveners. 9

11.5.5.     Staff Information Requests. 9

11.5.6.     Intervener Information Requests. 9

11.5.7.     Alternate Dispute Resolution Process. 9

11.5.8.     Hearings. 9

11.5.9.     Decision. 9

11.5.10.   Appeal 9

12.  Summary And Conclusions. 9

13.  References. 9

 

I think just about every one would agree that the stakeholder process is a critical component to BC Ferries survival.  At the moment the stakeholders process is in crisis and doomed to failure.

The focus of this document is structure.  It essentially address the question “How do you structure the stake holder process, so that the process can:

·        The Stakeholders learn the facts of the BC Ferries situation.

·        Have easy access to all the players in the game

·        Provide solutions from a Stakeholder prospective that will be heard by cabinet.

This document is proposes a number of significant alternatives as to the structuring of the process.  These alternatives include:

·        The Pentagon (Page 9)

·        Transport & Communications BC (Page 9)

·        Analyse The Transportation and Communication Needs of the Province

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·        BC Ferries Commission (Page 9)

·        BC Ferries Board of Director Commission (Page 9)

Once you have a structure that all sides have confidence in, then and only you can have meaningful dialogue, which has the potential of yielding solutions to problems, which all sides can live with.

This document was started in early 1998.  Since that time a number of events have happened, but the underlying problems still remain.

About four years ago, as the story goes, BC Ferries was told that they were not listening to the Public.  A consultation process was begun in an attempt to obtain the views of the public.  The first committee was formed in the North.  The second in the Southern Gulf Islands and the third encompassed the Howe Sound & Sunshine Coast Region.  A number of other committees have been formed since.  It is BC Ferries stated intention to have all routes represented by stakeholder committees.

The experience and value of each committee has varied.  Some committees have enjoyed a very positive experience while others have not.

In our region, Howe Sound - Sunshine Coast, it is my strong belief that while we as a committee and individuals have made mistakes, our experience has generally been positive.  We have achieved results for both our community and BC Ferries.

The purpose of this document is to evolve some of my ideas, and indeed the thoughts and ideas of others, into a proposal, which will take the current process into the next millennium.

2.1.     Definitions

2.1.1.     Fleets Vs Regions

My personal view has always been that if the AVP for the regions a Master Mariner, then those routes under him or her formed a fleet.  If the AVP is a bureaucrat, these those routes under him or her formed a region.  The intention was not to create division but rather recognise the diverse backgrounds, which make up BC Ferries management’s backgrounds.  Thus Capt. Tom Whelan’s group of routes, I referred to as a Fleet, or more accurately Central Fleet.

3.1.     What Is Ferry Advisory

There are as many ideas as to what Ferry Advisory is or should be as there are members of the public.  What it is not can be summed up as follows:

It is not a board of directors

It is not a management committee

It has no power or authority

It does not exist in statute

It is not a legal entity

There is no remuneration or perks (other then the cost of travelling to and from meetings and accommodation.

What Ferry Advisory is can be summed up thus:

It is a group of individuals trying to balance the needs of the community with the reality of the corporation.

For each individual to do the job properly requires commitment to the process, dedication to the goal, diplomacy, and a tremendous amount of time and money.

The Goal is to restore a healthy viable BC Ferries which meets the needs of the people, the community, and the finally the government.

3.2.     The Original Committees

3.2.1.     Northern Committee

3.2.2.     South Gulf Islands

3.2.3.     Howe Sound / Sunshine Coast Ferry Advisory Committee

4.1.     Strategic Planning

The first topic put forward for discussion by BC Ferries was to provide advice as to a ten-year strategic plan for the region.

4.1.1.     Phase 1 Draft Proposal

A draft proposal was produced containing a series of proposals and recommendations.  BC Ferries acted many of these on.  Others were to be costed out by BC Ferries so as an informed choice could be made between options.

4.1.2.     Phase 1 Costing By BC Ferries

BC Ferries returned to our committee with some ballpark costing on just about all we had asked for.  Some items which had been misinterpreted along with those items which had been omitted were returned to BC Ferries.

4.1.3.     Fast Passenger Only

The issue of Fast Passenger Only Service from Langdale to Vancouver arouse when BC Ferries issued a Request For Proposal or RFP for providing a Service for Victoria to Vancouver and then later expanded the RFP to include Langdale to Vancouver.

4.2.     Subcommittees

In order to facilitate the functioning of The Howe Sound / Sunshine Coast Ferry Advisory Committee it was decided to form several sub committees, all of which were to report to the main committee.

4.2.1.     Communications

A communications subcommittee was formed to communicate the work of the committee to the community.  This committee met only once, where it was decided that BC Ferries would handle all such communications.

4.2.2.     Operations & Scheduling

The issue of BC Ferries proposal to start charging for parking at Langdale Terminal created the need for an operations and scheduling committee.  It’s work eventually expanded to include a variety of subjects.

4.3.     Public Perception Of And Reactions To Ferry Advisory

I believe that in order to understand what happened to Ferry Advisory in our area, you must view the process through the eyes of the public.

4.3.1.     What Is Ferry Advisory

There are as many ideas as to what Ferry Advisory is or should be as there are members of the public.  What it is not can be summed up as follows:

It is not a board of directors

It is not a management committee

It has no power or authority

It does not exist in statute

It is not a legal entity

There is no remuneration or perks (other then the cost of travelling to and from meetings and accommodation.

What Ferry Advisory is can be summed up thus:

It is a group of individuals trying to balance the needs of the community with the reality of the corporation.

For each individual to do the job properly requires commitment to the process, dedication to the goal, diplomacy, and a tremendous amount of time and money.

The Goal is to restore a healthy viable BC Ferries which meets the needs of the people, the community, and the finally the government.

4.3.2.     Best Reasons For Not Getting Involved

Through out the duration of our committee there were a number of people who I personally approached who distinct opinions about BC Ferries, which would be helpful to the work of the committee but refused to get involved for a variety of reasons but mostly falling into the following categories.

4.3.2.1. It’s a Farce and a shame

A major hurdle, which I believe that our committee had to overcome, was the public perception that the process was a farce and a shame.  The public believed that BC Ferries had been doing it their way for 30 plus years - why should they change?

4.3.2.2. Let’s wait and see.

Another common comment that I heard was “Let’s wait and see what happens”, or “If it’s a success I’ll get involved.

4.3.2.3. I don’t have the time.

Another common comment, usually from people who like to complain a lot, but don’t want to do anything to effect resolution of the problem(s).

4.3.3.     Best Reasons For Getting Involved

Once however, it became clear that things were happening, every one wanted to be a part of it.

4.3.3.1. Ops it’s working - I’ve got to be part of it.

 

4.4.     Process Pros And Cons Of The Processes To Date

4.4.1.     Cons

4.4.1.1. There is no commitment by the government that they will listen to, let alone act upon the advice of the process.

4.4.1.2. Ops, it’s working, we’ve got to control it.

4.4.1.3. To Much Control, to little involvement

4.4.1.4. No Continuity

4.4.1.5. No Commitment

4.4.2.     Pros

4.4.2.1. Provide a common form where people can sit at the table and discuss issues in a civilised manner rather then protest and demonstrate.

4.4.3.     Mistakes And Lessons

4.4.3.1. Letting BC Ferries staff do what we should have done

This extremely sensitive issue and should not be misinterpreted.  It was the committees collective decision that BC Ferries staff should:

Chair the Committee

Act as committee secretary

While BC ferries staff did an admirable job in performing these tasks, it did however open the door to the charge that they were trying to manipulate the committee and the process.  But manipulation is a two way street: you can only be manipulated if you allow it to happen.  When you are part of any committee such as this, you have to have certain street smarts.

4.4.3.2. Divide and Conquer

4.4.3.3. Gagging other members

It became apparent to myself, as I am sure it did to a number of others, that there was a need for a fleet wide form.  A number on our committee did not want to see this happen.  When I first proposed we start communicating with other committees I was voted down.

Then VP of Finance, now Executive Vice President of Inter Island Services Glen Brown, initiated a process called Cost Allocation and Finance.  It was expanded to include discussions with regard to tariffs in the fall of 1997.

5.1.     Cost Allocation & Finance

The objective of this committee was to find a method of allocating cost and subsidies in an equitable manner cross the fleet.  Traditional most costs and the subsidies were allocated to administration.

5.2.     Tariff Consultation

5.2.1.     “We Want To Achieve Efficiencies Before We Raise Fares” Tom Ward

5.3.     The Pentagon

The concept of the BC Ferries Pentagon evolved from the principal that you could only have a conversation if all parties to the conversation are present.

5.3.1.     The Customers

The customers or Stakeholders have always been part of the conversation.

5.3.2.     BC Ferries Management

So has BC Ferries management.

5.3.3.     BC Ferries Staff

BC Ferries staff represented by their union have not formally been a part of the process until very recently.

5.3.4.     BC Ferries Board Of Directors

BC Ferries Board of Directors only became involved in Nov. 1997 at our Richmond meeting.

5.3.5.     The Government

The government has not officially been involved at any time.  Gordon Wilson, MLA for Powell River and the Sunshine Coast has been involved at the local level as have other MLA’s.

6.1.     BC Ferries Corp. Is Not Responsible For All B.C. Ferries

6.2.     Cabinet ignores the Stakeholders

6.2.1.     Invitation not responded to

6.3.     Cabinet Ignores B.C. Ferries

6.4.     The John Fryer Report

6.4.1.     Was not independent

6.4.2.     Did not fairly document the arguments put forward

6.5.     BC Ferries Fires Sunshine Coast Representatives

6.5.1.     Divide and conquer

7.1.     Lack of input

7.2.     Potential to be high jacked by special interest groups

I believe that there are a number of fundamental requirements in order to move both the process, and BC Ferries forward into the next Millennium.

8.1.     What is BC Ferries?

In order to proceed in any direction, you must first decide what BC Ferries.  The Stakeholders believe that BC Ferries is the operator of, and maintenance contractor for, a Marine Highway System, which spans most of the Coastal Waters of BC.

8.2.     How is it Funded

BC Ferries has essentially four sources of Revenues:

Fare Box Revenues

Federal Contract

Provincial Subsidy

Other Revenues and Contracts

 

8.3.     Take The Politics Out Of BC Ferries

Firstly we have to take the politics out of BC Ferries.  If BC Ferries truly is a Corporation, then it must be given the freedom to act as one.

You can divide these into three types of input: regulatory, Stakeholder and Government Agencies and Ministries.

 


8.4.     Provide a Structure for the stake holder process

 


8.5.     The Possible Structure Alternatives

 

 

 


8.5.1.     Transport And Communications BC

 


8.5.2.     BC Ferries Commission

9.1.     Responsible For The Movement Of People, Goods, And Information Within The Province Of BC

9.2.     People

9.3.     Goods

9.4.     Communications

9.5.     Analyse The Transportation and Communication Needs of the Province

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10.1.Introduction

10.2.Scope

10.3.Independence Of

10.4.Structure

10.5.Process Overview

10.5.1.Applicant

10.5.2.The Application

Typically the process would be initiated by an application from BC Ferries Corp., however the commission itself, or an intervener could also initiate such a request.

10.5.2.1.An Application by the commission

10.5.2.2.An application by BC Ferries Corporation

A typical process cycle would be initiated by BC Ferries applying to the commission to add, change or delete a service, function, or tariff.  Examples would include:

Changing a Schedule

Changing a tariff

Introducing a new service

Introducing a new type of service

Terminating an existing service

10.5.2.3.An Application by an Intervener

A process cycle could also be initiated from outside BC Ferries.  Examples if this type of application would include:

Requests for new service

Modifications to an existing service

Imposing new criteria or modifying an existing one

Changing the commission process or structure

 

10.5.3.Notice Of Application

10.5.4.Interveners

A major problem with any committee system is that there is always the potential for a committee to become dominated by one opinion to the exclusion of the minority or so called non-vocal majority opinion.  The intervener format over comes this problem by putting each group or individual on a level playing field before the commission.

10.5.4.1.Application for status

Any individual, group or association, Company, government Body may apply for intervener status by writing a simple letter of application to the commission.  The letter should include the applicants reasons for intervening, a mail address, and if a group, association, etc. the official contact person.

10.5.4.2.Test

The test as whether or not the application for status is granted by the commission shall be demonstrated relevance - does the application directly affect the applicant.

The commission should also have the latitude and power to include applicants who would not normally meet the test but whose participation would be a benefit to the proceeding.

10.5.4.3.List of Interveners

The commission shall maintain and publish the list of Interveners for each application

10.5.4.4.Funding

The BC Utilities Commission as does, I believe, all Federal Commissions, recognises the fact that not all Interveners are wealthy Individuals or Organisations able to bankroll their participation in the process.  Yet to have all individuals and groups participate on a level playing field in not only desirable, it is essential for democracy to prevail!

The commission would issue a standard rate schedule, which would be updated from time to time against which Interveners may request funding.  Based on the level and quality of the Interveners participation, the commission would award funding, at the conclusion of the process.  The commission would be given the option to award partial funding in advance, or interim funding to those Interveners already known to the commission and have demonstrated just cause.

10.5.4.4.1.Vote Buying

The issue of BC Ferries or any one else buying votes should not have merit since the BC Ferries Commission would have it’s own budget and would be independent of both the Stakeholders, the Government, and the Corporation.

10.5.5.Staff Information Requests

10.5.6.Intervener Information Requests

10.5.7.Alternate Dispute Resolution Process

The Alternate Dispute Resolution Process of A.D.R. is a form similar to the committee process stakeholders now knows.  The parties enter into a conference, which attempts to reach a compromise between the applicant, the commission, and the interested parties.  Should resolution not be achieved, and then the A.D.R. is considered a privileged conversation.  The matter proceeds to a full hearing as if the A.D.R. had not taken place.

10.5.8.Hearings

10.5.9.Decision

10.5.10.Appeal

11.1.Introduction

11.2.Scope

11.3.Independence Of


11.4.Conceptual Organisational Chart

11.5.Process Overview

11.5.1.Applicant

11.5.2.The Application

Typically the process would be initiated by an application from BC Ferries Corp., however the commission itself, or an intervener could also initiate such a request.

11.5.2.1.An Application by the commission

11.5.2.2.An application by BC Ferries Corporation

A typical process cycle would be initiated by BC Ferries applying to the commission to add, change or delete a service, function, or tariff.  Examples would include:

Changing a Schedule

Changing a tariff

Introducing a new service

Introducing a new type of service

Terminating an existing service

11.5.2.3.An Application by an Intervener

A process cycle could also be initiated from outside BC Ferries.  Examples if this type of application would include:

Requests for new service

Modifications to an existing service

Imposing new criteria or modifying an existing one

Changing the commission process or structure

 

11.5.3.Notice Of Application

11.5.4.Interveners

A major problem with any committee system is that there is always the potential for a committee to become dominated by one opinion to the exclusion of the minority or so called non-vocal majority opinion.  The intervener format over comes this problem by putting each group or individual on a level playing field before the commission.

11.5.4.1.Application for status

Any individual, group or association, Company, government Body may apply for intervener status by writing a simple letter of application to the commission.  The letter should include the applicants reasons for intervening, a mail address, and if a group, association, etc. the official contact person.

11.5.4.2.Test

The test as whether or not the application for status is granted by the commission shall be demonstrated relevance - does the application directly affect the applicant.

The commission should also have the latitude and power to include applicants who would not normally meet the test but whose participation would be a benefit to the proceeding.

11.5.4.3.List of Interveners

The commission shall maintain and publish the list of Interveners for each application

11.5.4.4.Funding

The BC Utilities Commission as does, I believe, all Federal Commissions, recognises the fact that not all Interveners are wealthy Individuals or Organisations able to bankroll their participation in the process.  Yet to have all individuals and groups participate on a level playing field in not only desirable, it is essential for democracy to prevail!

The commission would issue a standard rate schedule, which would be updated from time to time against which Interveners may request funding.  Based on the level and quality of the Interveners participation, the commission would award funding, at the conclusion of the process.  The commission would be given the option to award partial funding in advance, or interim funding to those Interveners already known to the commission and have demonstrated just cause.

11.5.4.4.1.Vote Buying

The issue of BC Ferries or any one else buying votes should not have merit since the BC Ferries Commission would have it’s own budget and would be independent of both the Stakeholders, the Government, and the Corporation.

11.5.5.Staff Information Requests

11.5.6.Intervener Information Requests

11.5.7.Alternate Dispute Resolution Process

The Alternate Dispute Resolution Process of A.D.R. is a form similar to the committee process stakeholders now knows.  The parties enter into a conference, which attempts to reach a compromise between the applicant, the commission, and the interested parties.  Should resolution not be achieved, and then the A.D.R. is considered a privileged conversation.  The matter proceeds to a full hearing as if the A.D.R. had not taken place.

11.5.8.Hearings

11.5.9.Decision

11.5.10.Appeal

Having a viable Stakeholders process is of paramount importance.  It eliminates the need for protests, demonstration, and angry letters to the Minister.  Our process has been essentially shut down since Dec. 97.  The newspaper headlines on Saturday, May 23, 1998 read